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Friday, 15 February 2013

Links between the Williams, Bellinghams, Wyes, Quins and Palmers

This post explores the links between the Bellinghams of Castlebellingham, the Quins of Dublin, the Wyes of Dunleer and the Palmer family of Dublin.  It's a work in progress....

Thomas Williams, father of Charles Wye Williams and Richard Williams of Drumcondra Castle, married Mary Ann Quin/Quine in St. Thomas's, Dublin, in 1777.
The ceremony was performed by a Rev. Wye,  who I believe to be Charles Wye of Co. Louth.  The records of St.Thomas's reveal that no rector by the name of 'Wye' worked there at any time during its history, therefore he must surely have been specially requested by the bride and groom. I've discovered no other clergymen by this name, other than Rev. Charles Wye and several members of the same family.  Rev. Wye also married  an Arthur Ormsby and Ann Ashe on the same day, but I've yet to discover who they were.
It appears that Charles Wye Williams, the second son of Thomas and Mary Ann, was named after Rev. Charles Wye,  who I believe was Mary Anne Quin's maternal grandfather, and that her parents were Thomas Quin, of Castlebellingham, and Mary Wye.

Notes on the Wye Family:
The grandfather of Rev. Charles Wye was Gilbert Wye of Co. Antrim. (He also owned property in Killiney, Co. Dublin.) Gilbert Wye was a burgess of Belfast and steward to the Earl of Donegall.

Gilbert's son, Rev. Mossom Wye, was born in Co. Antrim in 1662, and was the rector of Kilsaran 1689 - 1703, (Kilsaran being the parish closest to Castlebellingham, Louth), then the rector of Dunleer, a small town about four or five miles south of Castlebellingham.  Mossom Wye married a Miss Piers, and he died in January 1726.

Deed 17-329-916, dated 11th January 1716:   Rev. Doctor Mossom Wye of Dunleer and his eldest son, Rev.William Wye, demised and released a farm to a John Foster of Dunleer.  The lease was for the three lives of Rev. Mossom Wye's sons - Charles (ie, Rev. Charles Wye), William and Fielding.  It was witnessed by Rev. William Creichton of Dunleer,  Faithful Fortescue of Dublin, a gentleman, and Samuel Keating of Druminin, Louth, a gentleman.

Rev.William Wye, son of Mossom Wye, married Jane Brabazon, and had three children with her in Drogheda, Louth - Elizabeth Wye in 1712, Brabazon Wye in 1713 and Thomas Wye in 1715.

Rev. William Wye subsequently emigrated to the Carolinas and was noted there by 1717.   'Colonial Clergy of Maryland, Delaware and Georgia'  (Frederick Lewis Wies, 1978) confirms that  Rev. William Wye had been born in Co. Louth in 1684 to Rev. Mossom Wye;  he studied in Trinity, Dublin, and was a missionary in Goose Creek, South Carolina from August 1717 to December 1717, before settling in St. Stephen's parish, Northumberland, Virginai between 1721 and 1731. He would die in North Elk parish, Maryland, on 16th November 1744.
A colourful character, Rev. William Wye left a trail of havoc, which his modern descendants delight in!  He brought fraudulent letters of reference with him to the new world, and was hounded out of a clerical post in Charleston, Carolina, in 1720;  following this, he and his son, the mariner, William Wye Junior, moved to a parish in Maryland, becoming involved in numerous lawsuits for debt. The son, William Wye Jr., had, incidentally, been born in about 1706-10, before his father's marriage to Jane Brabazon.

There seems to have been several William Wyes since a William Wye was recorded as having married Anne Hasket on 28th February 1753 in St. Andrew's, Dublin.

The executors of John Mills of Rush, Co. Dublin in May 1777 were Rev. Brabazon Wye and his brother William Wye, ie: deed 314-269-213343, as published in 'Registry of Deeds: Abstracts of Wills, Vol. II 1746 - 1785'.

Charles Wye (1694 - 1784)
Another son of  Mossom Wye was the Rev. Charles Wye, born in Dunleer, Co. Louth, in 1694, and who was educated in Donegal by Mr. Cambell.  He entered T.C.D. as a Pensioner at the age of 16 on March 28, 1709, and became a Scholar in 1712. He was for some time previous to 1728 his father's Curate in Dunleer. He was collated to the Rectory of Darver on Mar. 12, 1734, which he held with Dromiskin, Louth, until Sep., 1752, when he exchanged with Rev. Joseph Pratt, A.M., for the R. of Ballymoney, Co. Cork and Kilmeen, (Ross), with which he held the Curacy of Kinneigh.
A deed exists which mentions a Charles Wye, gentleman, at Plunketts Land, Dunleer, in 1722.

Rev. Charles Wye was married to Sarah Spring. Deed 49-112-31110, registered 2nd February 1725:  Sarah Spring and her husband, Rev. Charles Wye of Dunleer, sold to Robert Cairns, gentleman, 'Soveraigne of Naas',  a parcel of land in Naas, Co. Kildare, known as Colonel Eustace's Commons.  There were other members of the Spring family involved in the sale. William Spring was Sarah's brother, and acted as her attorney;  Alexander Spring was named as the brother of the druggist, Thomas Spring.

The will of Rev. Charles Wye, dated 11 April, 1765, was proved in Cork 16 Aug., 1784. He mentions in it his son Francis Wye, and two daughters — Mary, wife of Quin, and Elizabeth.

Francis Wye, son of Rev. Charles Wye, and brother of Mary Quin, married twice, first to a woman named Elizabeth, then to a Lucretia.  Deed 115-287-80478, dated January 1844,  mentions both Francis Wye and his wife, Elizabeth, both of Dublin;  this deed involved a property deal for lands in Newtown, Blackhall and Roan in Dublin.

The will of Francis Wye, of Castlebellingham, was proved also in 1785;  he states that Sir Michael Cromie, Bart., Right Hon. Luke Gardiner, Esq., and John William Foster of Rosey Park were indebted to him by a bond in 1782 for £2,600, which he now bequeaths to his wife, Lucretia, along with land in Derrigra/Ballyhanum, Curracrowley in Cork, and Spaw in Louth, during the life of Henry Hughes, gentleman.  He also bequeaths his wife his interest in a house and garden in Castlebellingham. The witnesses were Peter Prole, George Bower and Henry Hughes.
According to a deed of 1785 (369-25-246076), Francis Wye's widow, Lucretia, sold on her inherited lands, plus house in Castlebellingham, to a Henry Kelly, prior to her marriage to Charles Henry Sallery of County Meath.

In 1784, Robert White of Williamstown, Kilsaran, married Mrs. Wye (widow) of Castlebellingham, but it's unclear whose widow this was.

Francis Wye's sister, Mary Wye, married a man by the name of Quin, who I believe to be Thomas Quin, the son of Francis Quin, bricklayer of Dublin.  Thomas Quin settled in Castlebellingham....

Deed 124-153-84082:  Dated 20th and 21st August 1746. A deed of lease and release, between Thomas Quin of Castlebellingham,  Rev. Charles Wye of Dromlisk, Co.Louth, Thomas Quin, apothecary of Dublin and Mary Wye, spinster, the second daughter of Rev. Charles Wye. Thomas Quin of Castlebellingham was the son of Francis Quin, bricklayer, while Thomas Quin, apothecary was Francis' nephew.
Whereby Thomas Quin of Castlebellingham, for the consideration of Charles Wye of the parish of Kilsaran (ie: Castlebellingham), and for the consideration of Thomas Quin of Dublin, his heirs and assigns,  34 acres of land near Castlebellingham and a house in Castlebellingham owned by Thomas Quin - these properties were being conveyed to Charles Wye and Thomas Quin of Dublin, for the lives of Thomas Quin of Castlebellingham, Robert Sibthorpe, eldest son of Stephen Sibthorpe of Dunany, Louth, and Henry Hughes, eldest son of John Hughes of Castlebellingham.
Also, Thomas Quin of Castlebellingham demised to Charles Wye and to Thomas Quin of Dublin a plot of land in Bow Lane, Dublin, so that a house may be built there.  The witnesses were Samuel Boyd and William Spring of Dublin.
Was the above deed the precursor to a marriage settlement between Mary Wye and Thomas Quin of Castlebellingham?     She certainly wasn't marrying Thomas Quin, apothecary, since he was married to Isabella Brownrigg of Annagh, Wexford.

Francis Quin of Dublin:
In either 1692 or 1715  (two different records record two different dates for the same couple, ie: and 'Diary of Thomas Bellingham'), Francis Quin, a wealthy merchant of Dublin, married, in St. Bride's, Dublin, Jane Bellingham, the daughter of Sir Thomas Bellingham of Castlebellingham. They had a son, Thomas Quin, who was noted as a churchwarden in Kilsaran Parish in 1748.  Thomas Quin also proved the will of his aunt, the unmarried Anne Bellingham, in 1758.   It seems that Thomas Quin had a son, Thomas, since Anne's sister, when she died in 1770,  mentioned her grandnephew, Thomas Quin, who was only a child, not yet fourteen.
I doubt that the family of Thomas Quin stayed in Castlebellingham, since the Kilsaran church records show little sign of the Quins - on February 27th 1831 Catherine Quin, the daughter of John and Mary Quin, was baptised.  A Quin was buried there on October 6th 1840.  In 1889 and 1890, a Richard Quin was churchwarden along with Major General Woolsey D.L.
Perhaps they headed back to Dublin?  A Thomas Quin was born in 1760 to Thomas and Mary Quin of Fleet Street.

The Bellinghams:
It seems that the Bellingham family, who had come from Levens in England, settled first in the same Liberties area of Dublin as the Quin family.
Two years before Mark Quine became the third Lord Mayor of Dublin, Daniel Bellingham, a member of the goldsmiths guild, became the first Lord Mayor of Dublin from 1665 to 1666.  The Great Mace of Dublin, a ceremonial item, was made in his workshop in 1665 and was subsequently purchased from him by the City Assembly. Daniel Bellingham was the granduncle of Jane Bellingham who married Francis Quin 30 years later.  Daniel Bellingham, the first of the Bellingham baronets, died in 1672 and was buried in St.Werberghs, as was his unmarried son, Sir Richard Bellingham, who died in 1699.
 The Bellingham baronetcy passed then to Daniel's brother, Henry, who had married a County Louth woman, Lucy Sibthorpe, and, soon after, he acquired the estates of Castlebellingham.
Henry became the High Sheriff of Kildare in 1654 following a stint in the military. It was about this time that he bought Gernonstown, later renamed Castlebellingham, from an ex-soldier, John Perryn, who is believed to have been granted the land following its confiscation after the 1641 rebellion, the original owners being the Gernons.  Another document lists land in Kilsaran parish which had been granted to Henry Bellingham for his services in the war, namely 619 acres in Gernonstown, 183 acres in Milestone (later the property of the Woolseys), 80 acres in Williamstown, 108 acres in Lynne and 86 acres in Adamstown.  This was confirmed in 1666.

Henry Bellingham's will in 1676 mentioned his sisters, Lady Jane Gilbert and Anne Bickerton, widow.

His son, Colonel Thomas Bellingham was the executor of his will and his successor to his estates.
Colonel Thomas Bellingham was the father of Jane/Jenny Bellingham who would marry Francis Quin in Dublin in 1692.   The diary of Col. Thomas Bellingham has been published online - there are two references to his daughter, Jane, who he refers to as Jenny. On June 28th 1690, he finds little Jenny very well;  on July 23rd 1690, he received a letter from her. He had other children - Abigail, who died unmarried in 1770,  Anne who died unmarried in 1759, and Henry Bellingham who married Mary Moore.
Colonel Thomas Bellingham' s will was proved in 1722 - he left £500 to his daughter Anne Bellingham should she ever marry, and £500 to her unmarried sister, Abigail, who had been named after her mother, Abigail Handcock, who was, apparently, not a great beauty.  Jane/Jenny, having been provided for when she married Francis Quin, was not mentioned in her father's will, whose executors were his son, Henry Bellingham, and his 'beloved kinsman' Robert Sibthorpe of Dunany. The will of Thomas' daughter, the unmarried Anne Bellingham, was later sworn to by her nephew, Thomas Quin, when she died in 1758 (see below).

The will of Anne Bellingham, 1758:  the unmarried Anne Bellingham left 'my five Guinea Piece of Gold and the ring of Queen Mary's hair' to her sister-in-law  who Anne named in the will as her 'sister Bellingham'.  This was Mary Moore, the wife of her brother, Henry Bellingham.  Anne also left bequests to her nephews Henry and Alan Bellingham (the two sons of her brother, Henry), to her nieces Eliza Fortescue, Mary Coddington, Margaret Bickerton, Anne Bellingham and Jane Bellingham (these were the daughters of her brother Alan Bellingham).
A further bequest was left to her nephew, Thomas Quin (son of her sister Jane), and to her grandniece, Abigail Aston, and a final one to her sister, Abigail Bellingham.   In 1770,  Anne's sister, Abigail Bellingham, made her own will, in which she mentioned a grand-nephew, Thomas Quin, who she desired to be put to some trade or business when he reached the age of 14 - this child was, therefore, the son of Thomas Quin and his wife who I believe was Mary Wye, the daughter of Rev. Charles Wye.

Rev. Charles Wye married Mary Anne Quin and Thomas Williams of the Bank of Ireland in St. Thomas's in 1777.   The eldest son of Mary Anne and Thomas was Richard Williams, of Drumcondra Castle, who would marry Anne Palmer.

The parents of Anne Palmer who married Richard Williams were George Palmer, the governor of the Bank of Ireland, and Anne Bickarton, the only daughter and heir of Daniel Bickerton of Milestone, Castlebellingham.  Daniel Bickerton was the son of Robert Bickerton of Chatilly, Armagh, and of Anne Bellingham.   This Anne Bellingham was the daughter of Henry Bellingham and Lucy Sibthorpe, and the sister of Colonel Thomas Bellingham.

The following families also interlink with the Bellinghams....


  1. Rev. Mossom Wye's sister, Rebecca, married Ven. Adam Ussher (1650-1713) Rector of Clontarf & Archdeacon of Clonfert (he was 5th son of Sir William Ussher of the Castle of Grange, co. Wicklow

  2. Thanks for the mention of John Mills. (