William Henry Cuthbert and Elizabeth McManus Grattan

Our maternal great-grandmother was Rebecca Cuthbert who married Robert Stewart. Her brother, William Henry Cuthbert married Elizabeth McManus Grattan on February 22nd 1898 in St.Werburgh's, Dublin.  William Henry Cuthbert was a joiner like his father, Henry Thomas Cuthbert, before him, living at home at 69 Seville Place, while Elizabeth was a dressmaker who worked for the Abbey Theatre.  At the time of the marriage she was living with her family at 19 Parliament Street; the witnesses were A.W. Miller and Annie Coe.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/07/culbertcuthbert-family-of-monegall.html

William Henry and Elizabeth Cuthbert spent the early years of their marriage at 27 Spencer Street, North Dock, before moving to 96.1 North Strand Road.

Amongst their children, all born in North Dublin, were:

1) Annie Elizabeth Cuthbert, born at 37 Mary Street in December 1898.  She married twice. The first marriage took place in the North Strand on 20th September 1922.  Annie Elizabeth Cuthbert of 116 North Strand Road married the engineer's assistant, James Emanuel Moriarty of 34 Waverley Avenue, Fairview, the son of a farmer James Bowen Moriarty.  (James Bowen Moriarty, ex- RIC, would die on 17th December 1930 at 34 Waverley Avenue; his son, James Moriarty of 139 Richmond Road was the informant.)
The witnesses to the 1922 marriage of Annie Elizabeth Cuthbert and James Emanuel Moriarty were the bride's brother-in-law, George Rowden, and her sister Amelia Frances.

James Moriarty died in Clontarf aged 49 on 15th November 1935, and his widow went on to marry a second time in Clontarf Church on 29th March 1937.  She was living at 'Alpina', Vernon Avenue, Clontarf.  Her second husband was a civil servant, George Wyndrum, of 47 Botanic Avenue, Glasnevin, the son of timber broker David John Wyndrum.    Annie's siblings, Doreen Cuthbert and Robert Francis Cuthbert witnessed this second wedding.

George Wyndrum, second husband of Annie Elizabeth Cuthbert, had been born to Belfast-born clerk, David John Wyndrum and to Dublin-born Mary Strahan, at 11 Philipsburgh Avenue, on 12th February 1899.  He would died aged 64 on 16th September 1963 at 166 Quarry Road, Glasnevin;  a daughter, G. Wyndrum, was there.

2) Amelia Frances Cuthbert, born 7th October 1901; the family were then at 27 Spencer Street.  On 7th July 1937 in Clontarf Church, Amelia Frances Cuthbert of 'Drumyat', Howth Road, Clontarf, married a painting contractor of 'Marley', Station Road, Sutton, George Cameron, who was the son of tea importer Gilbert John Angus Cameron.   Amelia's paternal uncle, Joseph Charles Erskine and his son, Eric C, Erskine, were the witnesses - Joseph Charles Erskine had married Amelia's aunt, Emily Amelia Cuthbert, in 1912.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/07/culbertcuthbert-family-of-monegall.html

3) Lilian Maud Cuthbert, born 10th August 1903; she married joiner George Rowden, the son of lighthouse keeper John Rowden, in St.Paul's Church on the North Strand on 30th September 1929. At the time of the wedding, John Rowden was living at 12 Bessborough Avenue, North Strand, while the bride's addess was 116 North Strand.  Lilian's siblings, Amelia Frances Cuthbert and Henry William Cuthbert were the witnesses.

George Rowden (16th September 1900 - 1993) was the son of John Rowden - a fisherman at the time of his son's birth at 3 Pembroke Cottages in 1900 - and Anna Maria Blackmore, as was William John Rowden whose son was John Noel Rowden.

The child of Lilian Maude Cuthbert and George Rowden was Cecil George Rowden who was born in 1930.

4) Henry William Cuthbert, born 13th November 1905 at 11 Spencer St. He married Lilian Maud Halpin in St. Matthew's on 14th September 1936.  An engineer, in 1936 Henry William Cuthbert was living at 97 Howth Road, Clontarf, while Lilian Maud Halpin, the daughter of robe maker,  Richard Halpin, was living at Royal Bank House in Sandymount.  The witnesses were Henry's brother, Robert J. Cuthbert, Iola Francis Halpin and Mary Earl.

Lilian Maud had been born on 19th December 1907 at 19 Raymond Street to TCD porter, the Kildare-born Richard Halpin, and to his wife, Wexford-born Alice Essie Earl.

Marine superintendant, Henry William Cuthbert of 75 Iveragh Road, Whitehall, died in Sir Patrick Duns Hospital on 19th May 1962.  His son was named as J.W. Cuthbert of 75 Iveragh Road.

5) Robert Francis Cuthbert, born September 1910.

6) Dorinda Florence Cuthbert, aka Doreen Cuthbert, born 12th September 1913 at 4 May Street;  she married John Percival (Percy) Lovegrove in the North Strand Church on 2nd April 1946.   Orphaned at a young age, he had been reared by an uncle and aunt in Co. Laois.
Their son, David John Lovegrove, was born on 21st February 1947 and the birth was registered in North Dublin.
Doreen Cuthbert Lovegrove danced with the Abbey Theatre Ballet from 1927 till 1933.

Doreen Cuthbert

Her daughter, Doreen Lovegrove, née Cuthbert, died in Sutton on 7th November 2007;  her husband, John Percy Lovegrove, of Strand Road, Sutton, died later on 15th June 2014.

Elizabeth Grattan, née McManus Grattan, died on June 26th 1946.  From the Irish Times:  'Cuthbert (née Grattan) - June 26th, 1946, at her daughter's residence, "El-Arish", Burrow Road, Sutton, Co. Dublin, Elizabeth McManus, dearly-beloved wife of William Henry Cuthbert, after a long illness.'
Her son, Henry William Cuthbert of 75 Iveragh Road, Whitehall, was the informant when she died in 1946.
Elizabeth's husband, the carpenter William Cuthbert, died aged 76 at 14 Hughes Road, Walkinstown, on 7th September 1951;  his son was present - Robert Francis Cuthbert of 14 Hughes Road.

The Grattan Family:
Elizabeth McManus Grattan, who married our William Henry Cuthbert in 1898, was born on 22nd September 1874 to the tailor, William Grattan, and to his wife, Mary Anne McManus, at 43 Bolton Street, Dublin.  She was baptised in St. Mary's.

I had believed that Elizabeth's mother, Mary Anne McManus (1844 - 1892),  had been born in Ashton-under-Lyne, Manchester, England, in about 1845, to the Longford-born tailor, Michael McManus (born circa 1819), and his wife Catherine, who also hailed from Longford. (In 1851, this family were living at 12 Victoria Street, Hulme, Lancashire.  Michael McManus was working as a journeyman tailor, and they had three young daughters - Mary Anne 6, Eliza 4 and Catherine aged 2.  Ten years earlier, the unmarried Michael McManus had been living in a boarding house in Ashton-under-Lyne with his younger brother, Thomas, who was also a journeyman tailor.) 
However a fellow researcher has contacted me to let me know that the father of Mary Anne McManus was actually a shoemaker by the name of Bernard McManus;  her mother was Letitia Fitzgerald.  Bernard McManus and Letitia Fitzgerald  had married in 1839 - their children were all born in Manchester - MaryAnne McManus on 1st September 1844,  Elizabeth McManus on 29th November 1840, and John McManus on 3rd July 1842.  All three children were christened in the anglican Manchester Cathedral.

Did they perhaps move home to Dublin soon after the birth of their children?  A Bernard and Letitia McManus were the witnesses in Glasnevin on 11th January 1847 when carpenter William Meade married Mary Moy, the daughter of a tinsmith Arthur Moy.

Mary Anne McManus, daughter of Bernard McManus and Letitia Fitzgerald, married the tailor William Grattan in the York Street Chapel, Dublin, on 10th June 1867.  William Grattan was the son of Robert Grattan of 99 Cork Street, while Mary Anne McManus was the daughter of shoemaker Bernard McManus of 12 Peter's Row.  The witnesses to the wedding were Sarah Gray and Robert J. Wilkin.

Robert and Jane Grattan of Cork Street, Dublin:
The tailor William Grattan (1841 - 1903 or 1908), who married Mary Anne McManus, was the son of Robert and Jane Grattan who lived in the Liberties area of Dublin.  Robert Grattan worked in the textile industry as a fustian or cord cutter which was a process involved in the manufacture of corduroy.
The children of Robert and Jane were all christened in St. Catherine's on Thomas Street.
William was born to Robert and Jane on July 8th 1841 at 13 Ormond Street, which is off Cork Street.
On 28th February 1836, Samuel Grattan was born to Robert and Jane at Cork Street.
A son, Francis Grattan, had been born at 10 Cork Street, on 21st July 1838, to Robert and Jane.  He would later work as an upholsterer, and married Matilda Harriett Sharpe, the daughter of a clerk, George Sharpe; they married on 9th July 1870 - at the time they were living in 36 Aungier Street. Robert J. Wilkin, Francis Grattan's brother-in-law, and Caroline Sharpe were the witnesses in St. Peter's.
It seems that Francis Grattan died five years after his marriage to Matilda Harriett Sharpe - a Francis Grattan, aged 33, of 99 Cork Street, died on 11th June 1875 and was buried at St. Catherine's.

On 6th May 1844 in Cork St, Robert and Jane Grattan had Mary Anne Grattan who would later marry a timekeeper, George Bartholomew Pilkington or Pelkington, the son of Thomas Pilkington, a tax collector. Both bride and groom lived at 99 Cork Street when they married in St. Catherine's on 22nd February 1869;  the witnesses were Robert James Wilkin (Mary Anne's brother-in-law) and her sister Fanny Jane.

On 20th March 1847 at 118 Cork St, Robert and Jane Grattan had Fanny Jane Grattan.  Frances Jane Grattan, the daughter of the fustian-cutter Robert Grattan, married Robert James Wilkin, a cabinet-maker of Bride Street, the son of a Cavan farmer Robert Wilkin. The wedding took place in St.Catherine's of Thomas Street on 25th April 1875;  at the time, the Grattan family address was 99 Cork Street.  Margaret Curtis and Samuel Grattan were the witnesses.
The Wilkin family lived at 93 Mount Pleasant Avenue, Rathmines.

Robert Grattan, born 1771, of Cork Street was buried in St. Catherine's on Christmas Day 1847, aged 76.  Was this the father or grandfather of William Grattan?

The Children of William Grattan, tailor, and Mary Ann McManus:
   Robert Francis Grattan, born 13th April 1868 at 99 Cork Street.
  William Henry Grattan, born 19th December 1869, at 113 Middle Abbey Street.
   Bernard John Grattan, born 2nd May 1872, at 5 Henrietta Street.
   Elizabeth McManus Grattan, born 22nd September 1874, at 43 Bolton Street.
   Letitia Fitzgerald Grattan, born 23rd December 1875, at 43 Bolton Street.
   Valentine Samuel Grattan, born 7th April 1878, at 15 Capel Street.
   Edward Patrick Grattan, born 15th March 1880, at 75 Capel Street.
   Francis Alexander Grattan, born 26th September 1881, at 75 Capel Street.
   Samuel Charles Grattan, born 22nd September 1884 at 157 Capel Street.
   Mary Jane Frances Grattan, born 21st July 1886, at 157 Capel Street.

Mary Anne Grattan, née McManus, died in North Dublin, and her death was registered in the second quarter of 1892.

The second marriage of William Grattan:
William Grattan, tailor of 157 Capel Street, married a second time.  On October 5th 1893, he married Mary Norton of 15 Reginald Street.  She was the daughter of a shoemaker, Thomas Norton.  The marriage in St. Catherine's was witnessed by Henry Kay and Maude Eveline Norton.

There were two children resulting from this second marriage, both born at 157 Capel Street:
    Albert James Grattan, born 6th October 1894.
    Emily/Amelia Victoria Grattan, born 26th June 1897, died 1905.   (Irish Times: 'Grattan - Dec.16, at Adelaide Hospital,  Amelia Victoria (Amy) aged 8, youngest daughter of William and Mary Grattan of 157 Capel Street.')

William Grattan, tailor, died on December 6th 1908 at his residence, 157 Capel Street.
He was alive for the 1901 Census at 157 Capel Street.  Some of the children were still at home - the two youngest were Albert James, aged 6, and Amelia Victoria, aged 3.  Edward, aged 21, was a tailor like his father;  Samuel Charles, aged 16, was a grocer;  Mary Jane Frances was only 14.
By 1911,  William Grattan has died, as has his youngest daughter, Amelia Victoria. The youngest son, Albert James, a clerk, was living with his uncle, Thomas Norton, a printer of 13 Susan Terrace, Merchants Quay.

Where were the others?
William Henry Grattan, a tailor, married Jane Ray, and lived with his family, first at 11 Fishamble Street, then at the family home of 157 Capel Street.  The couple married in St. Werburgh's on 26th December 1893 - Jane's father was William Ray, a tinworker of 9 West Essex Street, while the groom, William Henry Grattan, was a tailor still at home in 157 Capel Street.  The witnesses to the marriage were Lucy Ray, Lizzie Grattan and Alfred John Dunne.

Bernard John Grattan married, in 1894, the London-born Rebecca Elizabeth Collins. (Bernard had been named after an earlier Bernard Grattan of Cork Street, who also worked as a cordcutter, and may have been a brother of Bernard Jr's grandfather, Robert Grattan, a cordcutter of Cork Street - this older Bernard Grattan had a daughter, Jane Grattan, who married Stephen Spain in St. Catherine's in 1850.)
Bernard Jr. worked as a tailor as did his father William.
 In 1901, Bernard and Rebecca lived at 181 Guinness Trust Buildings, Dublin, with their two sons, Robert Louis Grattan aged 4, and Bernard John Grattan aged 2.
On 18th August 1895, Bernard John and Rebecca had a son, Samuel Edward, at 34 Arklow Street, where Bernard John was working as a porter with the railway. This child must have died young as he's missing from the 1901 census.  By the following year, Bernard John was a tailor and the couple had moved to 35 St. Joseph's Place, off Dorset Street, where they had a son, Robert Louis, on 23rd October. On 23rd December 1899 they had Mary Annie McManus Grattan at 19 Marlborough Street - this child also seems to have died young but there is no death registered for a child of this name in the index;  William Charles Grattan was born on 3rd December 1902.
Bernard John Grattan was the witness to the wedding in 1892 of - possibly - a brother of his wife's, Charles Robert Collins, a bookbinder whose father was Charles James Collins, a dressing case maker. Charles Robert Collins married Kathleen Rock, the daughter of a baker, William Rock.

In 1894, Letitia (Fitzgerald) Grattan witnessed the wedding in St. Werburghs of Ellen Fitzgerald, daughter of the printer Richard Fitzgerald of Werbergh Street.  Ellen Fitzgerald married another printer, Thomas Cannon, son of John Cannon of York Street.
Letita Grattan married, in 1897, Arthur Clark, a cleaner and dyer of Waterford;  they lived in Castle Street, next to Dublin Castle. In 1911, their children were listed on the census as May Clark 13, Arthur 10, Laura 7 and Samuel 5.  Letitia worked as a waistcoat maker - her brother, Francis Grattan, an unemployed butler, was present in the household on the night of the census.

Valentine Samuel Grattan seems not to have survived childhood.

Robert Francis Grattan married Annie Burgess, the daughter of a bootmaker, Henry Burgess of 4 High Street.  The wedding took place in St. Audeon's on 19th February 1894, and was witnessed by David Burgess and Mary O'Neill.  Robert Francis Grattan was a tailor, surprise surprise.
Robert Francis died in South Dublin in 1898, aged 30.

Samuel Charles Grattan emigrated to Massachusetts where he married Annie Maria Bird in Watertown.  At the time of the wedding on April 20th 1906, Samuel Charles was working as a glazier, but he would later go into printing.  His wife, Annie Maria Bird, was a presser/laundress, who had been born in Fermanagh to Robert Bird and Annie Mulhern.  Samuel Charles stated on the certificate that he was the Dublin-born son of William and Mary Ann McManus Pilkington - he may have confused his late mother's maiden name with the married name of his paternal aunt, Mary Anne Grattan (his father's sister) who had married George Bartholomew Pilkington in Dublin in 1869.
Samuel Charles was drafted into the US army in 1917.  By this stage the couple were living in Malden, Massachusetts, and Samuel Charles was working as a printer for the Columbia National Life Insurance Co.
In 1920,  the family were living in Malden, with one son, Robert W. Grattan, who had been born 16th October 1911.  They were still there in 1930.  The son, Robert W., had become a printer's apprentice.
In 1934, the street directories record both Samuel Charles and his son, Robert W., living as printer/compositors at 57 Willard Street - by now, Robert had married a woman named Harriet.
Having survived World War I, Samuel Charles was called up again for the Second.  This time the registration card records that they were living at 57 Willard Street, Malden, and that his son also lived there, ie, Robert W.Grattan.   Samuel Charles worked for the Rapid Service Press at 470 Atlantic Avenue in Boston.
Robert W.Grattan died in Abingdon, Massachusetts, on 28th February 1987.

The Family of Mary Lavina Pennefather and Rev. John Hare

Matthew Pennefather of New Park, Tipperary (1784 - 1858), was the nephew of Rev. John Pennefather of Newport, our many times great-grandfather, Matthew's father being John's brother, Richard Pennefather of New Park.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/12/rev-john-pennefather-newport.html

Matthew Pennefather married Anna Connor of Ballybricken, Cork, in 1814, and one of their daughters was Mary Lavina Pennefather, born 1815.
Mary Lavina/Levina Pennefather became the wife of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet, Ballibay, Co. Monaghan.   The Monaghan records were destroyed by fire so little information survives about this family.  I've gathered together snippets of information here and there and collated them as best I could.

All the evidence points to the Rev. John Hare being the son of the solicitor, John Hare of Deer Park, Cashel, Tipperary and of Upper Fitzwilliam Street, Dublin. The Limerick Chronicle of 6th November 1841 confirms this, with the announcement of the marriage of John Hare and Mary Levina Pennefather:
   'On Tuesday at the Cathedral, Cashel, by the Rev. Thom. Newingham, the Rev. John Hare, Rector and Prebendary of Tullycorbet, Clogher, eldest son of John Hare of Fitzwilliam-street and of Deerpark, Esq., to Mary, eldest daughter of Matthew Pennefather of Newpark, Esq.  After the ceremony, upwards of seventy people partook of an elegant déjeune at the hospitable mansion of the bride's father.'

The Trinity records show a John Hare, born 1804, who was admitted in 1821 and was the son of John Hare, pragmaticus, Dublin.  He got a B.A.Vern in 1826, an M.A. in 1828, and LLB in 1840.

Rev. John Hare was noted in Tully Corbet, Monaghan, in 1837.

From The Limerick Chronicle, 13th March 1844:  'Louisa Victoria, daughter of the Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet Glebe, aged five months.'

Griffiths Valuation of 1860 showed the Rev. John Hare to be have been resident in Tullycorbett, Monaghan, a freeholder of 67 acres with 7 acres of turbary/bog, and an address at the Glebehouse.

Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbett died in Dublin on December 23rd 1860.

'The Gentleman's Magazine, Volume 219' recorded the death in 1865 of Mary Levina Hare, aged 50 -
   'At Wellington Park, Clifton, Bristol, Mary Levina, relict of the late Rev. John Hare, Tully Corbet Rectory, Ballibay, Co. Monaghan, and daughter of the late Matthew Pennefather, esq., D.L. New Park, co. Tipperary.'
   Mary Lavina was buried at the Rock of Cashel.

The children of Rev. John Hare and Mary Lavina Pennefather were John Pennefather Hare (1845 - 1910),  Matthew Frances Pennefather Hare (born Tipperary 1847) and Anna Sophia Matilda Hare (born Tipperary 1852).


Anna Sophia Matilda Hare:
Anna Sophia Matilda Hare married John George Gibson on 8th August 1872 and had 8 children, although only 4 survived childhood -
  1. John William Pennefather Gibson, born 57 Upper Mount Street on 29th Aug.1872. (John William Pennefather Gibson, went to Trinity, Cambridge, and appears in their records as the son of John George Gibson, Justice of the King's Bench, of 38 Fitzwilliam Place, Dublin.  John William had been sent to Charterhouse School, England, and had been called to the bar on January 26th 1897;  he practised at the Irish bar, as did his father.)
  2. William George Gibson was born at 57 Upper Mount Street, Dublin, on 13th February 1873.  He was a solicitor.
  3. Anna Elizabeth Gibson, 1877 - 1911.
  4. Charlotte Mary Hare Gibson, born Dublin 1880.

John George Gibson, husband of Anna Sophia Matilda Hare:
John George Gibson had been born at 41 Upper Fitzwilliam Street on 13th February 1846 to the solicitor William Gibson and Louisa Grant who was the daughter of Joseph Grant of Dublin.
 John George was the couple's fifth son and was the brother of Edward Gibson, Lord Ashbourne of Meath.  (Edward Gibson, later Lord Ashbourne (1837-1913) was the Lord Chancellor of Ireland.  Gibson was born at 22 Merrion Square, Dublin, educated at Trinity College and was a Queens Counsel by profession; he was an MP for the Trinity College constituency from 1875 to 1885.
He had been Attorney General for Ireland and drafted legislation known as the Ashbourne Act which set up a £5 million fund to allow tenants buy land by way of government loan repayable on a monthly basis over 48 years at an interest rate of 4%.  Ashbourne remained Lord Chancellor of Ireland for 20 years except for the three-year period from 1892 when the Liberals under Gladstone returned to power.  He lived on Pembroke Street in Dublin, died in London and his ashes were interred in Mount Jerome Cemetery in Dublin.)

John George Gibson was  mentioned in 'The Irish Law Times and Solicitor's Journal' of 1870:  'Barristers - John George Gibson, Esq., AM., Dublin University, fifth son of William Gibson, of Merrion-square, in the city of Dublin, Esq. Certificate signed by Charles H. Hemphill, Esq., QC. To be proposed by Gerald Fitzgibbon, Esq., MC. Mr.Gibson obtained the First Prize at the General Examination held before last Easter Term, and takes rank accordingly.'
   (NB: The Charles H. Hemphill mentioned above was Charles Hare Hemphill, the son of John Hemphill and Barbara Hare who was the youngest daughter of Rev. Patrick Hare of Cashel - he was therefore a cousin of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet.)
John George Gibson was a member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, one of Her Majesty's Counsel Learned in the Law, Justice of the Peace, Master of Arts of Trinity College, Dublin. He was a Judge of the High Court of Justice (Queen's Bench Division) and was a member of several clubs - the Carleton, Athenauem, and University Club.
John George Gibson's father, William Gibson, taxing master of the Irish Court of Chancery, died in 1872 and his obituary was published in 'Volume 52 of 'Law Times, the Journal and Record of the Law and Lawyers'.  He had been born in 1808 in Gaulstown, Meath to an earlier William Gibson of Lodge Park, who died in 1820 and to his wife, Mary Ann Bagnall, daughter of Edward Bagnall (1760 - 1838) of Hawkinstown, Meath.  Edward Bagnall, late of Lodge Park, Co. Meath, died aged 78 in Rathmines in December 1838, ('Clare Journal', 17th December 1838) and was a descendant of Sir Nicholas Bagenal (1509 - 1590).  Edward Bagnall has been identified by other researchers as a possible son of Richard John Bagnall and of his second wife Anne Williams (his first wife being Aphra Sargent).  Edward's siblings were Richard born 1769, James born 1772, Charlotte born 1762 and who married Dublin printer Brett Smith, Amelia who married Rowland Cooke, Alice, Elizabeth and Susanna.
On June 27 1838, at St. Peter's, Dublin, John Grierson Esq., of Moville, county of Donegal, married Arabella Gibson, second daughter of the late William Gibson Senior, of Lodge Park, County Meath.
The younger William Gibson, solicitor,  died on 20th February 1872 at Merrion Square.  He married twice.
His married his first wife, Louisa Grant, in 1831;  following her death in 1853, he married Charlotte Hare on 24th April 1856 in St. Peter's - she was the only daughter of John Hare of Deer Park, Tipperary, and of Upper Fitzwilliam Street. The ceremony was performed by her two brothers, Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbert and Rev. Charles Hare of St. Munchin's, Limerick.

A son of William Gibson of Merrion Square was the solicitor Edward Gibson of Pembroke Street who was called to the Irish bar in 1860, and who married Frances Colles, the second daughter of Henry Colles of Upper Mount Street.

William Gibson and second wife, Charlotte Hare, had a daughter, Elra Frances Gibson in 1858.
On 22nd October 1853 at 22 Merrion Square North, Bessie Gibson, the daughter of solicitor, William Gibson, married Francis Blackburne Martley, esq., of 107 Lower Baggot Street. Francis' father was John Martley, and the witnesses were James T.Martley and George Daniell.

Rockforest:  William Gibson purchased the Rockforest estate, county Tipperary, in the 1850s. By his first wife Louisa Grant of Dublin he had five sons and a daughter.  He died in 1872 and was succeeded by his eldest son Captain William Gibson of Rockforest, Roscrea, county Tipperary, who owned 5,214 acres in county Tipperary in the 1870s. A headstone in Mount Shannon Church of Ireland cemetery, county Clare, marks the burial place of the Captain's eldest son Major William Gibson who was born at Rockforest in 1874 and died in 1957.

Anna Sophia Matilda Gibson, née Hare, died on 28th September 1939 at The Edgehill Hotel, Bovey Tracey, Devonshire.  She was 'care of Martins Bank, 7 Water Street, Liverpool.'  Probate was granted to two of her children, William George Gibson and Charlotte Mary Hare Gibson.  Charlotte Mary Hare Gibson died on 9th September 1964 at Nynehead Court, Wellington, Somerset;  probate to Matins Bank.

Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare, son of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet:
The son of Rev. John Hare and Mary Lavina Pennefather was Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare who was born in Tullycorbet, Ballibay, Co. Monaghan on 18th February 1847 and who died in Hammersmith in 1883.   His birth details were provided as proof of his age when he applied to join the civil service in 1872.

In 1871, Matthew F.P. Hare was staying at the home of his relative, Julia Elizabeth Clare Dupen, née Pennefather, who was the daughter of Joseph Lysaght Pennefather. (ie: Julia was the granddaughter of Rev. John Pennefather of Newport, while Matthew F.P. Hare was the great-grandson of Rev. John Pennefather's brother, Richard Pennefather of Newpark. I had to scribble a chart out on paper to figure that one out correctly!)
The Dupen family were living in Clifton, Bristol, where Matthew F.P. Hare's mother, Mary Lavina Hare, had died six years previously in 1865.  In fact both Wellington Park where Mary Lavina died, and Kings Parade where the Dupen family were living in 1871, are almost adjacent to each other.

In 1871, Matthew F.P. Hare was a wine and spirit merchant, and was visiting Julia Dupen along with his young wife, Ada Lumsden, who was only 17.  The couple had married the year before on 20th December 1870 at St. Leonards, Shoreditch, London.  Ada was the daughter of James Lumden, wine merchant, and had been born on 17th February 1854 in Clapham, although her son would later state that she had been born in Scotland.

By 1881, Matthew Hare was a Copyist in the Treasury, and the family were living in Hammersmith.  They had four children - Mary Ada Hare aged 9, John Henry aged 7, Francis Lumsden aged 5, and James Pennefather Hare aged 3.
Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare died two years after the 1881 Census on 15th July 1883 in Shepherds Bush, Hammersmith.
Ada remarried, this time to a silk salesman, Ernest Slocomb, of Devon;  they lived in Lewisham.

In 1901, their daughter Mary Ada Hare was living in Royal Hospital, Chelsea, and was noted as a student in a training college.
Her brothers all went into the theatre, one way or another. The best-known was Francis Lumsden Hare who was known by the simpler Lumsden Hare, and who became an early leading man in the Hollywood film industry, playing opposite Ethel Barrymore and John Drew.
He married twice, first to Frances Mary Ruttledge, then to Selene Johnson.  The first marriage took place on January 9th 1899 in St. Pancras, London - Francis Lumsden Hare was living at 31 Brunswick Square, while Frances Mary Ruttledge was at 172 Breckrock Rd., Islington; her father was Thomas Ruttledge of the Civil Service. The witnesses were Thomas Ruttledge and William Edward Ruttledge.

This marriage broke down however.  Frances Mary Hare petitioned for divorce on 17th July 1911 on the grounds of her husband's adultery and stating that he had deserted both her and her daughter in 1909.  Following their marriage in 1899 they had lived at 'Egmont House', Shaftesbury Avenue;  in 1911, Frances Mary and her daughter were living at 66 Belgrave Road, Pimlico, while Francis Lumsden Hare was at Jermyn Court Hotel, Jermyn Street.  The divorce was granted on 13th May 1912.
In 1911, Frances Mary Hare was visiting her cousin, Frederick James Lawson, a doctor of 66 Belgrave Rd., London.

Frances Mary Hare's will was published in the National Probate Calendar:
    'Hare or Ruttledge, Frances Mary of 245 Baker St London NW1, single woman, died 10 April 1946. Administration London 24 July to Nora Patricia Hare spinster.'
 
The couple's daughter, Norah Patricia Margaret Hare had been born 8th November 1900, and died in April 1997 in Sussex.  She appeared on the 1901 census as a 4-month-old infant visiting the home of William Murrell on Povensy (?) Rd., Eastbourne. The same night, John Pennefather Hare, (the brother of her grandfather, Matthew Hare) was visiting another household, the Bradleys,  a few doors away on the same street.
   Norah crops up again on the 1919 passenger list for the 'Megantic' which was sailing to New York - she was an actress as were most of the other passengers;  she states she was Irish, rather than English, and that she spoke French as well as English. Her mother's address was 7 Ranelagh Mans, New Kings Road.

In 1915, Francis Lumsden Hare, the son of Matthew Hare and Ada Lumsden, appeared in the New York Census along with his Pennsylvania-born wife, Selene;  they were both actors, living in Queens.
In 1920, Frank L. Hare and Selene were living in Queens, both were stage actors, and Francis states that his mother (Ada Lumsden) had been born in Scotland, rather than Clapham.
The Motion Picture Studio Directory of 1921 gave the couple's address as Ballingarry, Whitestone Landing, Long Island, New York.  The fact that Francis Lumsden Hare named his home 'Ballingarry' is highly significant, since this was the Tipperary area around Cashel, where his grandmother, Mary Lavina Hare, nee Pennefather, originated from;  his father most likely came from this area also. Francis Lumsden's brother, John Henry Hare, claimed on the 1911 census that he had been born in Cashel.
By 1930, the couple had emigrated west to Los Angeles. They had no children. They had emigrated to the US in 1900 and Francis once again states that his mother had been born in Scotland; this time, Francis states that he had been born in Ireland.
In 1955 the couple's address was on Canon Drive, Los Angeles.
Selene Hare, née Johnson, had been born 20 February 1874 and died in L.A. on 11th December 1960. Her mother's maiden name had been Knapp.

Lumsden's brother, John Henry Hare (born 1874) , ran the Dunfermline Opera House in 1920.   In 1911 he was living in Bedford, and was married to Isabella Leith McIntyre, an actress of Newcastle.  On the census, John Henry Hare states that he was born in Cashel, Tipperary, this despite the fact that the census of 1881 contradicts this and states that the Hare children were all English-born.  It does serve to highlight a Hare family link to the Cashel/Ballingarry area of Tipperary, however, which was the home of the Pennefather family.

The youngest brother, James Pennefather Hare, owned The New County Theatre, a cinema in Bangor, Wales.
He married twice - the UK marriage index records his first marriage as having taken place in Newport, Monmouthshire, in 1898.
He remarried later, this time to Lucie Irene Jones - this marriage took place in Hendon in 1939.
The Calendar of Wills records the death of James Pennefather Hare - when he died on 5th December 1952, he was living at 'Roscrea', Friar's Avenue, Bangor.  Once again, the naming of his home as 'Roscrea' links a member of this branch of the Hare family  to Tipperary. The will was administered by his widow, Lucie Irene Hare, and a single woman, Irene Mary Rowland Jones, who may have been a child of Lucie Irene's first marriage.  The will was re-administered in 1861, this time by a James Anthony Rowland Jones.

John Pennefather Hare (1845 - 1910), son of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet:
Although I can find hardly any information about him, John Pennefather Hare appears to be the eldest son of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet and of Mary Lavina Pennefather. His middle name, of course, reflects the naming practise of the day, by using the maiden name of the mother or the grandmother.
John Pennefather Hare was a major Tipperary landowner who lived in the neighbouring county of Laois/Queen's County -  in the 1870s John Pennefather Hare of Durrow, Queens County, owned 3,922 acres in county Tipperary and 188 acres in county Cork, while Patrick Hare of Castledurragh, Durrow, owned 600 acres in county Tipperary.  Patrick Hare was a son of solicitor John Hare of Upper Fitzwilliam Street, and therefore the uncle of John Pennefather Hare.

John Pennefather Hare never married, and flitted between Ireland and England, staying in boarding houses whilst in the UK.
In 1871 he appeared on the UK census in a boarding house at 67 - 69 Pall Mall, London;  he was 26, and a landed proprietor.
In 1881, he was lodging at 96 Talbot Road, Paddington, and was a single gentleman of Ireland.
In 1901, the census captures him visiting the Bradley family in Eastbourne; he was 'living on his own means', and his grand-niece, Norah Patricia Hare, an infant of 4 months old, was also visiting a neighbouring house on the same street.
   He died on 1st July 1910 at 18 Northumberland Avenue in Kingstown/DunLaoghaire.  Probate was granted to his nephew, William George Gibson, barrister-at-law (his sister's son), and to Henry Mark Patrick Hare, solicitor (his cousin, the son of Patrick Hare of Durrow), and to a Nathaniel Taylor, who also proved the will of Charlotte Hare, who was John Pennefather Hare's paternal aunt.

The Hare Family of Deer Park, Tipperary:
The first of the Hare family to settle in the Cashel area of Tipperary was the Venerable Patrick Hare (1736 - 1816), the Vicar-General of Cashel.  He married Mary Crozier, daughter of John Crozier of Fermanagh,  and had a large family of four sons and seven daughters.   Rev. Patrick Hare, DD, rector of Golden and Templetuohy, and vicar-general of the diocese of Cashel, died in July 1816, aged 89.

A daughter of Rev. Hare of Cashel was Marianne Hare who married Charles Dillon of Cassino, Co. Dublin.  Another daughter was Elizabeth Hare who married Rev. Marshall Clarke, the rector of Shronell, Co. Tipperary, who died there in 1833. Other daughters of Rev. Patrick Hare of Cashel were Helena Hare, and Barbara Hare who married John Hemphill in 1858.  A Mary Crozier Hare married Michael William Phipps of Pembroke Parish, Co. Cork, in St. Peter's, Dublin, on 19th December 1829 - at the time of her marriage she was living in Upper Fitzwilliam Street, which was the residence of her brother, John Hare, who follows. Alternatively, Mary Crozier Hare might have been a daughter of John Hare of Upper Fitzwilliam Street.

The solicitor, John Hare (1776 - 1865) of Deer Park and of Upper Fitzwilliam Street, was one of Rev. Patrick Hare's four sons,  the only son to have children. In 1803 John Hare married Eliza Croly, the daughter of a Cork merchant, Humphrey Croly. The couple went on to have 13 children together, including Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet, Patrick Hare of Durrow, Laois, Rev. Charles Hare of Baggot St, Dublin and St. Munchin's, Limerick, and Captain Robert Hare of the 40th Regiment who died on 26th December 1906 at 19 Windsor Terrace.

Rev. Charles Hare of High Legh, Cheshire, son of solicitor John Hare and Eliza Croly, married Harriet Mary, the second daughter of the late Rev. Walter Hore of Newlands, Co. Wexford, in August 1847 in Cheltenham.  In 1854, Rev. Charles Hare accepted the parish of St. Munchin's - he was named in the papers as the son-in-law of the Bishop of Limerick but I wonder was this an error.
A Walter John Hare was born on 24th February 1857 to  Rev. Charles Hare and his wife Harriott Mary at Roseneath, Corbally, Limerick.  A daughter of Rev. Charles Hare was Harriot Katherine Hare who married Charles de la Poer Beresford Croker, son of Captain Edward Croker, in St. Anne's, Dublin, on 19th May 1881.

The street directories show up John Hare, attorney and son of Rev. Patrick Hare, living at 22 Baggot Street in 1812 and at 101 Baggot Street in 1822.  By 1835, John Hare and his family had moved to their permanent address at 25 Upper Fitzwilliam Street, where, in 1845, the directories record Patrick Hare, attorney, son of John Hare, as resident at the same address.

The Trinity College records show that a Patrick Hare had been admitted as the son of John Hare, lawyer, aged 17 in 1825, which gives him a date of birth of 1808.  The Irish index of death registrations confirm this - he died in 1878 and the death was registered in Abbeyleix, Queen's County, with a date of birth given as 1808.  On 13th November 1867, Charles Henry Hare, aged 2, the second son of Patrick Hare of Clonageera, Queen's County, died following a fall from a horse. Patrick Hare, son of solicitor John Hare, had married Eliza Houseman Westropp on 12th February 1861 in Notting Hill, London - Patrick lied shamelessly about his age, saying he was 40, when he was acually 53, probably since his bride was much younger at 26.  He was of Clonegeera, Durrow, the son of John Hare, solicitor, while she was the daughter of Berkeley Westropp of Upper Sheen, Mortlake, a lieutenant in the Royal Navy; the family address was 18 Stanley Gardens.  It seems the Westropp family also had its origins in the Tipperary/Limerick area.

Intermarriages - in 1782, Arthur Vincent, the grandson of the Mayor of Limerick, Arthur Vincent, married Mary Westropp, the daughter of an earlier Berkeley Westropp. The youngest son of Arthur and Mary Vincent was Berkeley Vincent of Summerhill,Castleconnell, Clare, who, in his turn, married in March 1835, Helena Hare who was the daughter of solicitor John Hare of Deer Park and Upper Fitzwilliam Street.

Photo of Helen Vincent kindly supplied by Helen's great-great-great grandson Berkeley Vincent.

The daughter of Berkeley Vincent and Helena Hare, Helen Hare Vincent, married Dudley O'Grady in 1868. The son of Patrick Hare of Durrow, Henry Mark Patrick Hare, and Arthur Rose Vincent would prove the will of Mary Frances O'Grady of Erinagh, Castleconnell, Clare, in 1923.

Eliza Houseman Hare, née Westropp, wife of Patrick Hare of Clonageeram died in Dublin on 23rd September 1919. Her address in 1919 was 'Clarmallagah', Foxrock, and the will was proved by her son, Henry Mark Patrick Hare.  Earlier, in 1891, she filled out a UK census return in Torquay, Devon, where she was living with her Irish-born daughters, Eliza Westropp Hare and Emily M. Hare.
She was back in Dublin for the 1901 Census, living with her family in Galloping Green , Stillorgan, Co. Dublin - present were Eliza Westropp Hare, born Dublin 1862), Henry Mark Patrick Hare, (solicitor to the Irish Land Commission, born Dublin on 23rd February, 1869, attended Dulwich College, served his apprenticeship with William Fry & Son of Dublin), and Emily Mary Eclis Hare (born Dublin 1872).
In 1911, Eliza Houseman Hare was living at 5 Sydney Parade Avenue, Dublin, with two of the children, Eliza and Henry.  She states that she had had 9 children but that only 5 had survived.
The other two sons of Patrick Hare and Eliza Houseman Westropp were Loftus Robert George Hare who had been born at Grand Canal St., Dublin, on 9th October 1867, and John Berkeley Agar Hare, born in Dublin in 1863.
Loftus was educated at Dulwich College; the college records that he was the continental representative of Messrs. Howden. engineers of Glasgow.
In 1891, Loftus was a boarder at the Imperial Hotel, Cardiff, and was noted as an assistant marine superintendant.
Loftus lived in Islington and the electoral register records him there in 1808, lodging at 29 Tytherton Rd;  three years later the same register records his landlord there as his own brother, John Berkeley Agar Hare.   Loftus died on 18th September 1917 at 'Woodthorpe', Sydenham Hill Rd., Surrey, with probate to a member of the Westropp family, Berkeley George Gale Westropp.

John Berkeley Agar Hare was born to Patrick Hare and Eliza Houseman Westropp in 1863 in Dublin. In 1881 he was a student living at the home of his maternal grandmother in New Windsor, Berkshire, Eliza Isabella Murray Westropp, maiden name Safe, (1807 - 1887), who had been married to Berkeley Westropp.  She had been born in Cashel, Tipperary;  at the time of her marriage to Berkeley in 1830, she had been living in Rouen, Normandy.
Also present in the household in 1881 was her son, James B. Westropp, a soldier, and brother of John Berkeley Agar Hare's mother, Eliza Houseman Hare.
   John B.A. Hare married a Norwegian woman, Inge Bruun, in Bergen, Norway, in 1889, her father being Karl Mathias Bruun.  John and Inge were living in Newtown Abbot, Devon, with their infant son, Berkeley C.P.Hare;  John Berkeley Agar Hare was a veterinary surgeon.
   In 1901 the family were resident in Islington.
   John Berkeley Agar Hare died on 10th April 1947 in Navan, Meath. Probate was granted to Nathaniel Taylor who had also proved the will of John Pennefather Hare, was John B.A. Hare's cousin, and of Charlotte Gibson, née Hare, who was the 2nd wife of John Hare of Deer Park, and who died at Clarinda Park East, Kingstown, Dublin, on 3rd June 1909.

Another son of the solicitor, John Hare of Fitzwilliam Street and of Deerpark, Co. Tipperary, was Lieutenant Loftus Hare of the 14th regiment of foot, who died at Castlebar barracks on 9th November 1850.



On 30th May 1833 in Cashel Cathedral, Jane, the daughter of John Hare of Deerpark, married John Pedder Phipps of Cregg, Co. Cork.  John Pedder Phipps, MD of South Cregg, Co. Cork, died on 7th December 1862;  his widow, Jane, died 15th January 1868.
Their only son, Charles Hare Phipps, MA, of Cregg, married Margaret Madeline Croly, 3rd daughter of Henry Croly MD of Greenfield, Rathfarnham.
Margaret Madeline and Henry Croly were members of the same Croly family as Eliza Croly who had married the solicitor John Hare in 1803.  Eliza Hare, née Croly, was the daughter of the Cork merchant, Humphrey/Humphry Croly and his wife Anne/Nancy Carey.  Humphrey Croly and Anne Carey, daughter of John Carey of Kilworth, had married in October 1769,  Humphrey being the son of son of an earlier Humphrey Croly and Esther Hall.

(A Rev. George Hare was rector at the Royal Hospital, Dublin;  married to Catherine, the couple had a son, John William Hare on 20th July 1845.  I have no idea if these were members of the Hare family discussed in this post, but I note them here nonetheless....)

The children of Humphrey Croly and Anne Carey were, along with Eliza Croly Hare, John, Richard, Anne who married John Labarte of Clonmel, and Esther who married Joseph Moore Labarte of Clonmel.
In October 1837, Rev. Richard Croly, Henry Croly and John Nelson were suing Rev. Theobald Mathew for damages - Rev. Richard Croly was noted here as the grandson of Humphrey Croly, who had leased his land in Cork with the understanding that it be kept in good order.  Rev. Mathew took a lease on the property known as the Botanic Gardens in the Liberties of Cork, and proceeded to cut down the trees and convert it to a large cemetery in about 1830, contrary to the terms of the lease.

Dr. Henry Croly of Greenfields, Rathfarnham, whose daughter had married Charles Hare Phipps, was the son of John Croly of South Cregg, Fermoy. His mother, Margaret Johnson, was the sister of Lt.-Col. David England Johnson of the 5th Fusiliers.    A son of Henry Croly MD was Dr. William Johnson Croly who died aged 29 in Durrow, Queen's County, on 4th May 1871.
A document held in the National Library in Dublin holds a copy of the confirmation of arms of Colonel Arthur England Johnson Croly of Rathfarnham and makes mention of the family's descent from Humphrey Croly of Cork.

 

Julia Pennefather, daughter of Joseph Lysaght Pennefather

Julia Elizabeth Clare Pennefather ( c.1833 - 1875) was the daughter of the Tipperary-born barrister, Joseph Lysaght Pennefather, and of his first wife, Elizabeth Rea, of Barnwood, Gloucestershire.  Joseph's half-brother, Edward Pennefather, was our maternal 4 x great grandfather - both were the sons of the Rev. John Pennefather of Newport, Tipperary.

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Julia had been born in Barnwood in about 1833, nine years after her parents' marriage in 1824;  her mother died shortly after this, in December 1848.  The Newport, Co Tipperary, parish register records the birth of an earlier child, named Anne, born in 1823 to Joseph Lysaght Pennefather and to a woman whose name seems to be something like 'Daly' - both must have died shortly after.
Joseph's daughter, Julia,  cropped up on the 1851 census, at the home of her grandfather, Joseph Rea, in Barnwood, Gloucestershire.

Ten years later in 1861, she reappeared, this time at 133, Victoria Place, Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire.  She had married, in 1859, Sharrock Semmens Dupen, a steamship purser, who had been born in Phillack,Cornwall in about 1835 (and it's important to bear in mind that people at that time didn't pay great heed to accuracy when it came to their ages) to an earlier Sharrock Semmens Dupen, who had also worked as a ship steward aboard 'The Herald' and who had distinguished himself in the 1830s by his business acumen - noticing that broccoli was selling at low prices in Cornwall, he bought cheap and transported the lot to Bristol where the same vegetable was selling high.
In 1861, Julia and Sharrock Semmens Dupen had the one young son, John Lysaght Pennefather Dupen;  by the time of the 1871 census, their family was rapidly increasing and Sharrock had become a wine and spirit merchant. They had six children ranging in age from 10 to 2, all English-born- John Lysaght Pennefather Dupen, Anna Pennefather Dupen, Julia Pennefather Dupen, Percival Pennefather Dupen, Clare Pennefather Dupen, and Dora Pennefather Dupen.
There were relatives visiting the household too, and I'll expand further on some of these later - Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare, aged 24, a spirit merchant of Tipperary, and his wife Ada Hare, aged 17, of Clapham.
Also present the night of the 1871 census was a 15-yr-old visitor, Thomas Burke, who had been born in the United States in about 1856, but I'm unsure if this was a relation of the family or not.

Julia Elizabeth Clare Dupen, née Pennefather, died at Bedminster, Somerset, in 1875.  Her husband, Sharrock Semmens Dupen, went into the hotel business - in 1881 the census showed him as a licensed victualler in the Guildhall Hotel in Bristol, living with his daughter, Julia P. Dupen.  There was also a housekeeper, Elizabeth Greening Harvey, who Sharrock would go on to marry;  he died on 1st December 1886 at Weston-Super-Mare where he ran the Claremont Hotel - his will was proved by his widow, Elizabeth Greening Dupen of 24 Cromwell Street, Gloucestershire, the house next door being the infamous home of the serial killers, the Wests, a century later.

Julia's eldest son, John Lysaght Pennefather Dupen, married Maria Constance C. Mclorg, the daughter of Edward Mclorg, in Barton regis, Gloucestershire, in October 1884.  The couple emigrated to the United Stated in 1888, with their two children, Francis and Mary. Later, John became known as Lysaght Dupen and Maria as Constance Dupen.  Starting in Wisconsin, they worked their way west over the years;  he worked as a stenographer/bookkeeper, and was noted in 1898 in St.Paul working for the 'Y + L Coal Company.
By 1900 the Census shows them in Douglas, Wisconsin, and the return gives the following useful information about their children:
  Francis Dupen, born September 1885 in England.
  Mary born March 1887 in England.
  Clare born July 1888 in Wisconsin.
  Eustace born July 1890 in Wisconsin.
  Ella born April 1893 in Wisconsin.
  Catherine born June 1895 in Wisconsin.
  Anthony born June 1897 in Wisconsin.
  Philip born April 1900 in Wisconsin.

By 1910, they have moved to Cochise, Lowell, Arizona where Lysaght had a job as the bookkeeper for a mining company, and his son, Eustace, was a stenographer in a law office.  There are extra children - 4-yr-old Pauline H. Dupen who had been born in Wisconsin, and the Arizona-born Mary C. Dupen, aged 1.
The family were still in Cochise in 1920, but ten years later, they had moved to Los Angeles.

Another son of Julia Elizabeth Clare Dupen, née Pennefather, was the master mariner Sharrock Percival Pennefather Dupen, who called himself the simpler Percival P. Dupen.   In July 1893 in Liverpool, he married his first wife, Mabel Hewitt Manifold, the daughter of the late Edward M. Manifold.  One of the witnesses was an Emma Manifold, possibly Mabel's sister.
A son, Alan Percival Dupen, was born on 22nd October 1894 in Liverpool, but he died there in July 1900.
His mother didn't last too long either - the 1901 Census shows the widower, Percival Pennyfather (sic) Dupen, who was the master of the 'SS Jebba' moored in Liverpool.
Pervical married his second wife, Harriet Ransford Stewart (no relation of our Co. Down Stewarts) in Cheltenham in 1904.  Harriet was a cookery/domestic science teacher, the daughter of a chemist, James Stewart.
Her husband died four years later in Paignton, Devonshire, in 1908.

Yet another son of Julia Pennefather and Sharrock Semmens Dupen was Vivian Pennefather Dupen, born 30th April 1871 in Clifton, Bristol.   In 1891 he was a 19-yr-old ironmonger's assistant, living with his two aunts, Joanna Dupen, a teacher of Phillack, Cornwall and her sister, Salome Dupen, also a teacher.  Vivian's sister, Dora Dupen aged 22, was also living there and was working, like her paternal aunts, as an assistant teacher.
Vivian Dupen, a merchant, would emigrate to Madras, India, where he married Jane Ann Rowe, the daughter of John Rowe, on 17th March 1903.  The Passenger Lists record him coming and going over the years. He returned to England aboard 'The Empress of Australia' in 1947 and was heading to 23 Brunner Rd, Ealing.   In 1957, he returned again, this time aboard 'The Stratheden' and gave his English address as 'Weyland', Mavelstone Close, Bromley, Kent.
Vivian had a daughter, Dora Pennefather Dupen, born in Palghat, India, in 1908, and a son, Vivian Cecil Dupen, born 1904 in Tellicherry, Madras, who married, in 1928, Grace Katherine May Purdoe.

A daughter of Julia Pennefather and Sharrock Semmens Dupen was Julia Mary Pennefather, who in 1881 had been living with her father in the Guildhall Hotel in Bristol.
By 1891, she was living in Redruth, Cornwall, and had married the Rev. William Russell who was 20 years older than her.  She had two children - Bernard William and Dorothy Frances, and her sister, Clara Pennefather Dupen, was visiting.
Julia Pennefather Dupen died in June 1893 in Redruth, Cornwall.

Another daughter, Anna Pennefather Dupen, died in Barton Regis, Gloucestershire, in October 1882.

Mary Courtenay and Herbert Gilman Moore

Mary Courtenay was the sister of our great-great-great grandmother, Emily Courtenay (who married John Pennefather), both women being the daughters of Frederick Courtenay and Mary Tuty of Wellington Street.
Mary Courtenay, daughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay, married Herbert Gillman Moore, the son of Emmanuel Gilman Moore, on 12th October 1851 in St. Mary's, Dublin.   Herbert Gilman Moore was the son of Sir Emanuel Moore and Ellen Gillman.  Sir Emanuel Moore, 9th of the Moore baronets of Rosscarbery, Co. Cork, had sold off the family lands in the 1840s and lived afterwards in reduced circumstances. At the time of Herbert Gillman Moore's 1851 marriage to Mary Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street, Dublin, Herbert was working as a prison officer in Newgate Prison.

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Their children of Mary Courtenay and Herbert Gillman Moore were:

1)  Sabina Jane Moore, born 25th July 1852 at 15 Little Britain Street, Dublin; her father was a convict officer.  Sabina Jane would later marry, on 15th May 1877, Walter John Woodward.  At the time of the marriage, both bride and groom were living at 16 Christchurch Place;  Walter was a corporal of the Army Hospital Corps. Sabina Jane Moore was illiterate and signed her name on the wedding cert. with her mark.
Walter Woodward's father was a sawyer's clerk named John Woodward, while Herbert Moore - Sabina Jane's father - gave his profession as a gate keeper.  The witnesses were Sabina Jane's younger sister, Kate Moore (ie: Catherine Isabella Moore) and a member of the Courtenay family,  Thomas Courtenay, probably the son of Frederick Courtenay and Mary Tuty.
Walter and Sabina had a daughter five months after the wedding - Adelaide Blanche Woodward, on 25th October 1877;  her father, Walter, was a sergeant in the Army Hospital Corps and the family's address was the Ship Street Barracks.  Following Adelaide Blanche's birth, I can find no further trace of this child.

Sabina's husband, Walter John Woodward, must have abandoned her - she was admitted, destitute, to the Dublin Workhouse, and was recorded leaving it twice, once on 28th December 1888 and once on 15th July 1889.  She had been living at 9, St. John's Lane;  her husband, a pensioner, was failing to support her.   Another record states that her husband was in England.

The Chelsea Pensioner Discharge Archives record Walter John Woodward of the Army Hospital Corp (number 3083) leaving the army on 19th September 1882. At the time he was stationed at the Royal Military Hospital in Netley, Hampshire.

Sabina Woodward appeared on the 1901 census living alone in Flat 21.3 in Winetavern Street close to Christchurch Cathedral.  She was a widowed tailoress who couldn't read.  Ten years later her younger sister, Catherine Moore, an unmarried attendant/nurse, aged 46, was living with her, but this time at Flat 21.4, Winetavern Street.
Sabina Woodward died in the workhouse on the 8th March 1912;  her death was registered as 'Sabina Woodworth.'

2)  Adelaide Anne Moore, born at 27 Wellington Street on 22nd May 1854.  Her father, Herbert Gillman Moore, was a convict officer.  27 Wellington Street was the home of the Courtenay family, and was home to a variety of family members over the years.
In 1875 in North Dublin, Adelaide Anne Moore married Alexander Sharp;  Alexander died a few years later, and the 1881 UK census shows Adelaide A. Sharpe living with her younger brother, Walter, in Southwark, London, along with his wife, Anna Maria Pennefather;  At the time, Adelaide was working as a governess;  the 1891 UK census shows up Adelaide Ann Sharpe, a widowed nurse, aged 34, working in the Peckham House Asylum in Camberwell, England, along with her younger sister, Catherine Isabella/Kate Moore, also a nurse.
The 1911 Census shows up an Adelaide Sharpe working as an assistant attendant on imbeciles (no sign of political correctness here!) in the North Plymouth Workhouse.

(In 1855, a George Greene of Cork St, married Sarah Coulter of 27 Wellington Street, the daughter of Philip Coulter, a mercantile clerk;  the witnesses to this wedding were Herbert Moore and George Hall who was married to Mary and Emily's sister, Adelaide Anne Courtenay.)

3) Emanuel Walter Moore was born at 27 Wellington Street on 5th November 1856;  his father, Herbert, was noted as an officer in Mountjoy Jail.

On 20th October 1866, Emanuel Walter Moore, aged 12 according to the prison archives, stole several photographic frames, was convicted and spent 2 calendar months in Richmond Bridewell. He was noted as Catholic, had been born in Cork, and had been living at 41 Stephen Street and working for his parents as a messenger.

On 20th August 1880,  Emanuel Walter married his first cousin, Anna Maria Pennefather, in St. Mary's. Anna Maria's mother was Emily Courtenay who had married John Lysaght Pennefather, while Emanuel Walter's mother was Emily's sister, Mary Courtenay.   In 1880, Emanuel Walter was a commercial clerk of 9 Middle Mountjoy Street while his father, Herbert Moore, was still working as a convict officer.

I sourced a deed of marriage in the Registry of Deeds in Henrietta Street, made between Emanuel Walter Moore of Cable Street, London (commercial traveller),  Anna Maria Pennefather of Middle Mountjoy Street, spinster, and Charles Jones of Middle Mountjoy Street (decorator, painter).  Charles Jones was Anna Maria's brother-in-law, being married to her older sister Isabella.   The deed, dated 17th August 1880, three days before the wedding, stated bizarrely that Anna Maria Pennefather, with the consent of Emanuel Walter Moore, granted and made over a sum of £700 cash to Charles Jones.

Emanuel Walter called himself by the name Walter Moore, while his wife called herself the simpler Annie Moore.
In 1881, the UK Census captures the family living at 22, Sumner Street, Southwark, London, where Walter Moore was running a coffee-house. Living with them was Walter's widowed sister, Adelaide A. Sharpe, a governess. There were no children; two men were notes as visitors to the household - a stickmaker of Shoreditch, Thomas Bloxam, aged 60, and a 26-yr-old medical student from Chester named something Mathias.  The family were also earning extra income by keeping five boarders.

A son, Charles Herbert Moore was born in London in late 1881, and the birth was registered in the St.Saviour Southwark area of London.

On 19th October 1884, Charles Herbert Moore, now aged 3, was baptised in Holy Trinity, Westminster.  His parents, the clerk Walter Emanuel and Annie Moore, were living at 3 Upper Dorset Street (Dublin or London??), which they were sharing with James Patrick and Elizabeth Dowling. Elizabeth Dowling, née Pennefather, was the sister of Annie Moore.   This was a group baptism - also baptised that day was Charles Herbert Moore's younger sister, Beatrice Moore, who had been born on 10th November 1883.   James Patrick and Elizabeth Dowling also baptised two of their young children - Annie Phyllis Dowling, born 5th December 1882, and her sister, Elizabeth Eleanor Dowling, born 13th May 1884.

By 1888, Walter and Annie Moore had returned to Dublin where their daughter, Eveline Moore, was born on 9th July 1888, at the Rotunda Hospital.  The family's home address was 131 North Street, and Walter was working once again as a clerk.
(The name 'Eveline' reverberated through the later generations, our great-grandmother being baptised as Emily Eveline Jones, her mother being Isabella Anne Pennefather who was the daughter of Emily Courtenay.
Emily Eveline Jones, aka Tennie, married Joseph Edwards Dickson and named a daughter Eveleen Emily Dickson, who we knew as our great-aunt Ebbie.)

The family were not living in Dublin at the time of the 1901 census, or perhaps they failed to fill out the census return.  At some stage Walter Emanuel Moore died - the Index of Registered Deaths for Ireland don't show this up, however, so perhaps the family were living abroad somewhere.

By 1911, the Moore family was living at 54 South Circular Road, Dublin....Charley H. Moore, born London in 1881, was a motor mechanic and was noted as a boarder in the household. His wife, Anny Moore, née Brien, was only 18 years old and had been born in Dublin City.  Anny was Charley's second wife....Charles Herbert Moore had married  Annie Brien, in Co. Meath on 2nd May 1910. I have the marriage certificate - the couple married in the Catholic Church of Dunshaughlin, Co. Meath. Charles Herbert Moore was a bachelor, not a widower, and was a mechanic resident in Dublin, the son of a mechanic Walter Moore.  Annie Brien was only 17, the daughter of a farmer John Brien. The witnesses were Richard Mangan and Mary O'Brien.

(In 1901, the 7-year-old Annie Brien was living with her parents, John and Bridget Brien, in Roestown, Dunshaughlin, Co. Meath.   Her parents, John Brien and Bridget Mangan, had married in Dunshaughlin in 1889.  Their other children were Patrick born 1890, Mary Josephine born 1892, Julia Agnes born 1895, Mathew C. born 1898, Thomas born 1900.  By 1911, John Brien and Bridget Mangan of Roestown also had Gertrude, born 1902, and Kathleen born 1905.

Also at 54 South Circular Road in 1911 was Charley's mother, the widowed Anna Maria Moore, born in Dublin in about 1857.   Anna Maria was earning a living through rental properties, in common with her older sister, our great-great-grandmother, Isabella Jones.  She had been thirty years married, and three of her four children were alive.  I wonder who and where the third survivor was?

Her daughter, Eveline, aged 22 now, was a scholar, and was resident with them.

To complicate things further, the Irish National School Registers, viewable via Find My Past, show up Evelyn Moore and Beatrice Moore at Harmony Row National School in Ennis.  Both girls were the Protestant daughters of a warder at Ennis Jail and had been admitted together on 7th March 1898. The dates of birth don't quite tally, but then they rarely do in this era.  Evelyn Moore was aged 12, while Beatrice was aged 7.
The 1911 Irish census states that Anna Maria Pennefather and Walter Moore had had four children and that only three had survived.  I wonder, therefore, had Beatrice Moore, born in London in 1883, died, and was this Beatrice Moore a younger sister named for the first?

Beatrice Moore, the daughter of Anna Maria Pennefather and Emanuel Walter Moore, married John Lord in St. Catherine's on 22nd August 1910.   John Lord had been born to farmer Richard Lord and Alicia Pratt in Ballyfin, Queen's County, on 20th November 1875.   In 1901 John Lord was living with his brother and sister in St. James Terrace, immediately adjacent to the South Circular Road where the Moore family suddenly appear in 1911.  At the time of his 1910 wedding, he was living at what seems to be Wolerly Street, South Circular Road, and was working as a commercial clerk.  Beatrice Moore lived at 54 Greenville Place, South Circular Road, and the marriage certificate confirms her as the daughter of Walter Moore, clerk.   The witnesses were Beatrice's sister, Eveline Moore, and Hugh Peppard and Henry Robert White.

In 1911,  Beatrice and John Lord were living at 11 Royse Road in Dublin and the census confirms that Beatrice had been born in London in 1886.

On 24th January 1917 in St. Victor's Church, Eveline Moore of 96 Donore Terrace, daughter of the late Walter Moore, married the widowed solicitor's assistant, Henry Petterson, son of market gardener Thomas Patterson.  The witnesses were James Anderson and Ellen Dowling.

Anna Maria (Pennefather) Moore of 26 Ovoca Road died, aged 65, on 29th November 1916.  She had been suffering from heart disease for 7 years.  The informant was her son, Charles Herbert Moore of 60 St. Alban's Road.

4) Catherine Isabella Moore, known as Kate Moore, was born on 4th April 1859 at 41 Wellington Street. Her father, Herbert Moore, was named as a Mountjoy officer.
 Catherine/Kate witnessed her older sister, Sabina Jane's, wedding in 1877, to Walter Woodward.
Catherine moved to England where she worked as a nurse in Camberwell Asylum in 1891, along with her older, widowed sister, Adelaide Anne Sharpe.  In 1911, she was back home in Dublin, living with her other widowed sister, Sabina Woodward, in Winetavern Street.

5)  Mary Ellen Moore was born on 22nd January 1861 at 53 Wellington Street;  her father, Herbert, was now working as a mechanic.  He was noted in the street directories for 1865 as Hurbert Moore of 53 Wellington Street, so the family must have spent a few years living in this same house.

6)  William Percival Hastings Moore was born on 26th September 1864 at 53 Wellington Street;  his father was noted as a carpenter.
William was named after his paternal uncle, Hastings Percival Moore, who had been born in Cork in 1820.

7)  Herbert Gilman Charles Moore was born on 22nd January 1868 at 53 Wellington St.  By now, his father, Herbert, had found work as an overseer at the Guinness Brewery in James' Gate.   Herbert Gilman Charles died young in 1871.

8)  Frederick Thomas Moore was born 20th February 1870 but died the following year.  In 1870 the family were living at 3 Halston Street and Herbert Moore was working as a gate constable.

9)  Robert Isaac Alleyne Moore was born 22nd October 1871 at 16 Stafford Street;  his father was a caretaker at Guinness's.   The son was named after another of Herbert's Cork-born brothers, this time Alleyne Moore.